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Post by Mr. Beast on Aug 31, 2006 1:01:05 GMT 1
isnt it weird that the guys have their own signature big muffs and noone uses it?
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Post by only on Sept 23, 2006 12:11:37 GMT 1
isnt it weird that the guys have their own signature big muffs and noone uses it? So true! A crankin' Big Muff sounds like nothing else But then, what studio tracks have they used Big Muffs on anyway? PS, is that a guitar with bass strings on it? (the one on the very left of the rack)
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Post by Chrille on Sept 23, 2006 12:39:52 GMT 1
PS, is that a guitar with bass strings on it? (the one on the very left of the rack) it's a six string bass guitar. but i think works also as a guitar with heavy effects. i think. the members of the cure use/used those kind of guitars. i wonder if john use that guitar during 'mfmk'.
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Post by only on Sept 24, 2006 4:24:20 GMT 1
it's a six string bass guitar. but i think works also as a guitar with heavy effects. i think. the members of the cure use/used those kind of guitars. i wonder if john use that guitar during 'mfmk'. Looks like a Fender gat with bass strings on it. Yeah I wonder if they use that on My Father aswell... also there's that ultra heavy Sabbath tone guitar that comes over the loud part of Ratts of the Capital... hmmmm
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Post by thom on May 20, 2007 18:53:36 GMT 1
Does anyone know what kind of Les Paul Stuart uses? Also, does anyone know what guitar he was using to play "R U Still in 2 It" at The Liquid Room gig a week ago?
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Post by janhus on Jul 6, 2007 15:13:03 GMT 1
Does anyone know what kind of Les Paul Stuart uses? Also, does anyone know what guitar he was using to play "R U Still in 2 It" at The Liquid Room gig a week ago? If you're referring to his black Les Paul, it's a Les Paul Deluxe (introduced late 60s, discontinued cca 1980). It's easy to spot due to its two mini-humbuckers. Gibson did a reissue a few years back so you can find them around here and there. www.gibson.com/products/gibson/LesPaul/Deluxe.htmlThe guitar in the photo that you linked to is a Fender Coronado. They were made in the mid- to late-60s. The pickups are a bit anemic and they tend to feedback a lot since they're totally hollow (not like a Gibbie 335 which has a block down the middle). I've never seen Stuart use those at all.
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Post by liquid on Jul 11, 2007 1:33:15 GMT 1
And about the speakers?Anyone got some clue what they use to get that sound? I guess that probably they use V30's but i'm not shure..
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Post by rockactionrecords on Jul 18, 2007 11:37:07 GMT 1
Heyyyy youuuuuu guuuuuuuyyyyys. I just thought I'd be dead helpful today because I'm not doing anything. Just to let you know that a lot of the time we actually hire amps and cabs for these shows and none of them ever sound the same. However, the music would pretty much sound the same through any decent valve amps (Orange, Fender, Marshall, Sound City, MatAmp, Mesa Boogie, Ampeg etc.) with any decent cabs. Unless I am being ignorant of course, but we don't really HAVE to have any specific amps to sound like whatever we sound like although we obviously have preferences. I hope this isn't unhelpful, I'm just chucking in a comment. I must now make lunch, using Ikea plates and food from Asda. BBBBBBBB
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Post by liquid on Jul 18, 2007 17:19:40 GMT 1
Matamp, Sound City..hmm.. I would sell someone's kidney to buy one.. I got your point and i still envy your Orange! Thanks..
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Post by gus on Jul 20, 2007 10:25:10 GMT 1
I must now make lunch, using Ikea plates and food from Asda. BBBBBBBB You have to make your own lunch? Craaaayzee. ;D
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Post by James Smith on Nov 21, 2007 2:43:33 GMT 1
Out of curiousity, what kind of guitar is John playing in this clip?
James
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Post by Chrille on Nov 21, 2007 22:14:53 GMT 1
i've seen a pic of that guitar somewhere else. i've been checking the site today several times. but it seems it's been removed because it's out of stock probably. but i'm almost sure it's a fender. a cheap model that probably was released in limited supply. and that john maybe got it through some funky auction or in some vintage guitar shop. who knows? but my vote would be a fender.
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Post by johncummings on Apr 28, 2008 22:48:06 GMT 1
Out of curiousity, what kind of guitar is John playing in this clip? James its a music man stingray II
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Post by James Smith on Apr 29, 2008 1:40:38 GMT 1
Yep, thats the one. Thanks John.
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Post by rob strong on Jul 19, 2008 23:27:25 GMT 1
I can't believe I'm replying to this thread, I have no idea on any of this stuff. Anyway - here's some comment (not from me) on Mogwai's equipment set-up circa 1999: I've no idea what king of distortion pedals they use but I'm pretty sure they're hot rodded in some way. The micro-synth I've only heard on a couple of tracks and live- listen to the whoosing noise at the end of Mogwai Fear Satan. They're made by Electro-Harmonix and cost about £110. Another interesting noise Stuart makes is by putting anything with a small speaker against his pickups- like a toy or dictaphone- and feeding them through the guitar. Delay-wise John uses a Boss DD-5 or 7 with a hold function and they also use compression on some tracks (from a pedal- 'cos you can hear it live. Guitar wise Stuart, Barry and John all have Telecasters (Fender, odviously) and Stuart has an Epiphone semi-acoustic and a yellow SG-style guitar as well. John's tele of choice is a twin-humbucker Fender Telecaster Custom, while Stuart's is a Nashville Tele or USA Deluxe, with a Seymour Duncan 'Jeff Beck Jr.' pickup in the middle position, replacing the Tex-Mex Strat single coil he used to have. Dominic plays a Rickenbacker bass through an Orange Stack, while the Guitarists have customised Marshall stacks and large Fender amps of some description, possibly 'Evil Twins'.
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Post by only on Sept 8, 2008 9:22:12 GMT 1
There's too much gear snobbery around "Keeley Modded Boss DS-1"s etc I doubt Mogwai would have bothered "hotrodding" their distortion pedals. One thing that hasn't been mentioned here is just how amazing Mogwai's recorded/live sound really is when you think about their gear. It seems they use the cheapest cables to connect their effects pedals and have basically no regard for analog (true bypass etc) snobbery (and good on them too). I just wonder how the hell they can cart this shit around the world, connect THAT many pedals to multiple amps under all kinds of stage power/electrical environments... and still have beautiful guitar tones, without buzz or humming or anything. Seriously, like... even the Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive (which Stuart and John use I believe) hums like a bitch at high settings and even bleeds over into the bypassed tone... I know because I have one . Plus you usually get "ground loop hum" when you connect one guitar to 2 amps in stereo, and have to do all kinds of tricks to eliminate the hum. Maybe they use expensive rack EQ/noise suppressors to clean everything up before it hits the mixing desk? I honestly wonder!
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Post by janhus on Sept 8, 2008 14:19:48 GMT 1
There's too much gear snobbery around "Keeley Modded Boss DS-1"s etc I doubt Mogwai would have bothered "hotrodding" their distortion pedals. One thing that hasn't been mentioned here is just how amazing Mogwai's recorded/live sound really is when you think about their gear. It seems they use the cheapest cables to connect their effects pedals and have basically no regard for analog (true bypass etc) snobbery (and good on them too). I just wonder how the hell they can cart this shit around the world, connect THAT many pedals to multiple amps under all kinds of stage power/electrical environments... and still have beautiful guitar tones, without buzz or humming or anything. Seriously, like... even the Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive (which Stuart and John use I believe) hums like a bitch at high settings and even bleeds over into the bypassed tone... I know because I have one . Plus you usually get "ground loop hum" when you connect one guitar to 2 amps in stereo, and have to do all kinds of tricks to eliminate the hum. Maybe they use expensive rack EQ/noise suppressors to clean everything up before it hits the mixing desk? I honestly wonder! Just because modded pedals are coveted by some "tone snobs" doesn't mean that they aren't significant improvements over stock ones. Remember that many modern pedals are slapped together as cheaply as possible, so sometimes modding really does have an impact. It's entirely possible that they're using modded pedals for a variety of reasons. And as for "I just wonder how the hell they can cart this shit around the world, connect THAT many pedals to multiple amps under all kinds of stage power/electrical environments", it's easier than you think. Bands ordinarily rent amps when they're a long way from home (Australia, US etc). They can usually rent the same amps that they use at home - Marshalls, Fenders etc. Effect pedals are put into small road cases and hauled over, with just a local-current power strip needed to get everything going. Pretty easy, actually.
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Post by James Smith on Sept 8, 2008 21:23:19 GMT 1
Stuart using a Strat?
When did this happen? A replacement guitar for the gig only? It has a more "chimey" single coil sound than what he usually has.
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Post by jontosh on Sept 8, 2008 22:11:13 GMT 1
Stuart using a Strat? When did this happen? A replacement guitar for the gig only? It has a more "chimey" single coil sound than what he usually has. it seems on that video that he isn't too happy with it, i would expect it's a replacement... although surely they have a spare tele kicking around, and he's on his tele for the other songs at that gig
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Post by zimske on Nov 17, 2008 20:12:58 GMT 1
not a replacement. he switched to it during the concert, for "thank you space expert" i think. seemed quite deliberate. they switched their instruments all the time. dominic played different bass on almost every song, but when he switched on music man (maybe i'm wrong, couldn't see well from the distance) oh gosh did it tumble my tummy and intestines. gorgeous sound, tho. now, any idea how stuart uses that marshall head with the twin? as a preamp? seems like an odd combination... [...if there's no cabinet beneath that twin, that is... ]
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Post by James Smith on Nov 19, 2008 3:17:06 GMT 1
When I've seen them live there a Marshall head sitting on top of the Twin in Stuart's setup. It runs the cabinet the Twin is sitting on. If you look on page 2 of this thread you can see a pic of the Marshall head sitting on the Twin.
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Post by zimske on Nov 20, 2008 19:52:46 GMT 1
ah, yes, but there's no sight of what the twin is sitting on, that sorta confused me a bit...
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Post by James Smith on Nov 24, 2008 6:58:02 GMT 1
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Post by nikko on Dec 5, 2008 16:36:13 GMT 1
Hi there ! first post on this forum. I'm playing guitar too and really impressed by the sound of the "mogwai guitars and bass". Especially the distortions tone in Mr beast. I've watched the documentary about the recording of Mr Beast and the distortions are the best I've ever heard (heavier than most hardcore and metal band, and it's a non-metal band...).
I wonder what is the tiny, round and grey pedal, with maybe 3 or 4 knobs that Barry is using (he touch it to set his sound) while playing his parts of Glasgow..., or maybe it was We're no Here ?
Another question : does anyone know what kind of gear Dominic use to get that much infra bass and presence with his sound ?
And finally, a little word for the band (if they, sometimes, read this forum) : Thank you very much for coming in Toulouse in febuary !
Nikko
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Post by only on Dec 13, 2008 6:01:03 GMT 1
I wonder what is the tiny, round and grey pedal, with maybe 3 or 4 knobs that Barry is using (he touch it to set his sound) while playing his parts of Glasgow..., or maybe it was We're no Here ? Another question : does anyone know what kind of gear Dominic use to get that much infra bass and presence with his sound ? I'll need to see a pic of Barry's pedalboard But there are a couple of "round, grey" distortion pedals that I know of: Jim Dunlop "Fuzzface": www.guitaravenue.com/images/photos/fuzzface.jpgor a Bixonic "Expandora": farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2707188249_9346c20e15.jpg?v=0www.vguitar.com/uploads/articles/3161/expandora-01.jpgAs for Dominic's sound, I know he runs a double Ratt and one of those Marshall "Edward the Compressor" stompers (see a few pages back), but I'd like to know exactly how he gets that over the top distorted fuzz/synth bass sound that kicks in during the last half of Scotland's Shame.. it's absolutely beautiful!!!
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Post by only on Dec 13, 2008 6:08:25 GMT 1
now, any idea how stuart uses that marshall head with the twin? as a preamp? seems like an odd combination... [...if there's no cabinet beneath that twin, that is... ] Hehe yeah there's a cab under the Twin! Seems like he runs both amps and switches between them with your typical A/B line-selector pedals. Twin's are well known for their gorgeous cleantones, and a Marshall (JCM800 I think he uses?) can handle all the dirty overdrive you can throw at it... so this way Stuart gets the best of both worlds. Also for alot of the Young Team "Summer"-esque soft/LOUD stuff he could be playing clean through the Twin and have the Marshall balls-out ready to go at the press of a pedal. That's the really cool thing about line-selectors.
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Post by plasmatron on Dec 13, 2008 21:25:48 GMT 1
now, any idea how stuart uses that marshall head with the twin? as a preamp? seems like an odd combination... [...if there's no cabinet beneath that twin, that is... ] Hehe yeah there's a cab under the Twin! Seems like he runs both amps and switches between them with your typical A/B line-selector pedals. Twin's are well known for their gorgeous cleantones, and a Marshall (JCM800 I think he uses?) can handle all the dirty overdrive you can throw at it... so this way Stuart gets the best of both worlds. Also for alot of the Young Team "Summer"-esque soft/LOUD stuff he could be playing clean through the Twin and have the Marshall balls-out ready to go at the press of a pedal. That's the really cool thing about line-selectors. I have both amps on at the same time. The Marshall has a bassier sound than the Twin. SB
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Post by eta on Dec 29, 2008 6:29:16 GMT 1
so it's just HUGE sounding. awesome. i do that with a twin and an orange head. also, guys, watch this video, i think it's been up on here already, but just to post it in this thread again.... there's some good stuff in this, watch it and learn! (the secret to dom's bass synth tone is def. in there). blogg.svt.se/psl/2008/12/17/prat-med-mogwai/
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Post by jiffy on Jan 12, 2009 16:28:09 GMT 1
dunno if this has been posted before
I pretty much use Guitar Rig on every single song on our new album (but as my keyboard/rhodes/receptor effects unit which it is simply the best piece of software equipment I own). Every song on the new album has a Native Instruments piece of software and we wouldn't be Mogwai without it."
Barry Burns of Mogwai
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Post by only on Feb 13, 2009 4:25:11 GMT 1
Stuart and co must be endorsed by Electro Harmonix, cuz they're all using the new Memory Man + Hazarai / Holy Stain pedals ... not to mention POGs galore (Poly-Octave-Generator). Cool shit!
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