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Post by only on Aug 2, 2007 10:55:15 GMT 1
The name "post-rock" kind-of is a joke though, it's implying that it's *beyond* rock which is really pretencious. You talk about breaking the boundaries of normal songwriting in rock music etc etc, have you heard Pink Floyd's early stuff like Atom Heart Mother? That was DECADES ago!
Also, people apply the genre "post-rock" to any music that is epic and doesn't typically have vocals. So if Snow Patrol didn't have vocals people would probably call them a post-rock band, right? It's nonsense.
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Post by gus on Aug 14, 2007 13:13:52 GMT 1
Sod post rock.... get on the trail with Moondog! Westward Hooooo!
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Post by gus on Aug 23, 2007 10:01:22 GMT 1
Explosions In The Sky & Eluvium. UK Tour. Jan 2008. Get On It!!!!!!!!!
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Post by James G on Sept 5, 2007 21:48:09 GMT 1
Rah!
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Post by gus on Dec 21, 2007 11:04:06 GMT 1
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Post by rob strong on Dec 22, 2007 14:09:08 GMT 1
Simple Minds?
There will be no girls at that festival. Not one.
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Post by Chrille on Feb 9, 2008 16:20:51 GMT 1
nme.com/news
Godspeed You! Black Emperor quit over Iraq
Godspeed You Black Emperor have announced their split.
The Montreal post-rock innovators have called it a day, but not for the reasons of 'musical differences' cited by many retiring bands.
Instead, founder Efrin Menuck declared that the band had become untenable due to "an existential freakout" relating to the Iraq war.
Menuck told Drownedinsound: "The last American tour that Godspeed did was in the run up to the current war in Iraq. For what Godspeed did, it was very difficult for us to work out a way to communicate directly with the audience about what was going on."
He continued: "We could talk to people after the shows, or we could make announcements from the stage, but so much what Godspeed was, was one-way communication, and I had an existential freakout about that, that those tactics aren't valid anymore.
"People didn't need a rock band pointing in the direction of (how the world was at that point). Maybe what they needed is some clumsy words, a presentation that was a little more human."
But Menuck hinted that personal issues between the members also played a part in the decision to split: "On a personal level I now find (Godspeed) to be inappropriate. There's a complicated back story. I reached a point whereby I was no longer willing to contribute to the steering of the ship; it was like, 'Okay now, someone else point the direction, I love you all, but I need to ride shotgun for a while'. I think that bands do have a short shelf life."
Godspeed You Black Emperor formed in 1994 and released six albums and EPs, culminating in 2004's 'Tiny Little Hammers'. Since when they have been on 'indefinite hiatus'.
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Post by distance on Feb 11, 2008 18:48:10 GMT 1
if it's true, i'm glad i went to 7 shows on that last tour... my only regret is that i didn't make it to the other two that i had tickets to.
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Post by Rob on Feb 13, 2008 20:50:48 GMT 1
www.drownedinsound.com/articles/2916951Following on from Friday’s news story about Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Efrim Manuck who was said interviewee, has asked us to post these comments / clarifications on the subject: "the internet remains a refuge for lazy writing and diminishing conclusions- the statements attributed to me in this 'news piece' have been pulled out of their original context, and pasted benath a misleading headline, in the name of scoring some sort of bullshit 'news exclusive'. godspeed's interminable silence will continue into the foreseeable future, but it wasn't the iraq war that made it impossible for us to continue functioning as an active band- a whole host of internal disagreements and external pressures contributed to us ending our long march together. there were 9 of us in the band, and i expect that if you asked each member to summarize the factors that led to our current hiatus, you would get 9 different answers. the truth is almost always both complicated and boring, and can't be articulated via bullet points and pull-quotes, especially in the hands of charlatans only interested in increasing their banner-ad rates by juicing their page-hit totals..." yrs., efrim While we are happy to offer Efrim a platform to air his views and thoughts on the subject, Drowned in Sound equally stands by the quotes and comments within the news story and does not feel they’ve been taken out of context and were a relevant matter to report. Not least given our admiration and interest in Godspeed… something that seems to be replicated by DiS users. Hopefully, when the full interview is published later this month, all will become clear in a conversation held with Efrim on matters of A Silver Mount Zion and beyond… it was a fascinating, intelligent and engrossing chat, which hopefully you’ll enjoy too.
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Post by hugemogwafan on Jul 22, 2008 21:07:09 GMT 1
I HAVE to recommend 65daysofstatic.....they have been blowing my mind lately. Check out the album 'One Time for all Time'.
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Post by gus on Jul 23, 2008 14:02:54 GMT 1
I HAVE to recommend 65daysofstatic.....they have been blowing my mind lately. Check out the album 'One Time for all Time'. All killer no filler! The last track on the lp, Radio Protector is one of my fav tracks of all time!
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Post by hugemogwafan on Jul 27, 2008 3:52:56 GMT 1
Don't know if they were mentioned in this thread, but anothe favorite of mine is Saxon Shore. They are really good.
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Post by gus on Aug 5, 2008 8:11:18 GMT 1
Not really post rock but as good a place as any to slap this. Was listening to Acid Food this morning and the country vibe reminded me of a band I haven't listen to in a while. They're called Japancakes and are worth a sniff. Hard to decribe their sound but the album I own which is 'Waking Hours' reminds me a bit of a laid back, country version of Explosions In The Sky. They released a version of MBVs loveless last year which I haven't heard yet but must be worth hunting down. Ch..ch..ch check it out... www.myspace.com/japancakesmusic
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Post by brokenharbours on Aug 13, 2008 5:46:07 GMT 1
ahh godspeed, lift yr skinny fists is still in my humble opinion one of the best albums of the decade. i once had a ticket to see them in brighton on the last tour they did and sold it to go out for a mate's birthday that night. just like menzies campbell's decision not to suceed paddy ashdown for the lib dem leadership in 1999, its a decision i've regretted for ten minutes a day since. does anyone actually know or have any kind of definition for what post-rock actually is or where the term actuaslly came from??? i mean, it's just such a lazily used term, i think it's become a pretty meaningless term for people who are mostly afraid to strike out and do anything new or who are afraid to say they're just plain rock (like calling themselves 'post-rock' makes them cooler or something).. isn't it just a bunch of bands copying one another with small modifications and vaguely influenced by a few thinks that've dropped down the line from my bloody valentine thru tortoise onwards... agreed. i read that "back to the future" piece some time ago and what really bugged me was how clumsy it was in actually defining "post rock". its been a while since then but i think it starts by saying how the main factors that led to it were: "the spent forces of grunge lo-fi, european space rock and ambient sound design" citing stars of the lid and labradford as examples, fair enough at this point methinks. it then goes on to say how the genre's main characteristic is how it uses "traditional rock instrumentation for non-rock purposes" (or something like that) which also makes sense with regard to slint. but what bugs me is that later the article gets to the point where it says that the genre is just as much characterised by the use of new technology like samplers, sequencers etc. this is where i have a problem, as in my mind these two characteristics aren't, strictly speaking, congruent and simon reynolds (or anyone else for that matter) never really explained the relationship between the two. if you take the former "rock instruments" path, you limit "post-rock" to a handful of guitar bands like slint, rodan, explosions in the sky etc and only some of mogwai's output. you would have to exclude labradford, godspeed! (since all of their music relies on the interplay between electric guitars and classical strings) and tortoise. also, you would also have to include earth and records like jerusalem by sleep which wouldn't normally fall into most people's perception of "post-rock" despite being remarkably similar to gavin bryars' "the sinking of the titanic" in terms of structure. but if that's true, what exactly, makes these bands essentially different to say, neu!, ruins, sonic youth and the velvet underground? on the other hand, if only you take the "new technology" approach, you more or less have to exlude slint, who were one of the biggest influences on the genre as well as most of the guitar bands listed earlier. after all, the genre's beloved delay effect has been used for decades since the 13th floor elevators. now i suppose you could say its allegorical to how rock music evolved out of skiffle and blues with the advent of electric guitars, amps distortion and other effects. or that its similar to how the tape loop techniques of pauline oliveros (sp?), terry riley & steve reich were later used by brian eno, the beatles and mission of burma. but this seems only implied which in turn implies that reynolds either wasn't too sure on this point or that he left it out for fear of claiming that "post-rock" isn't so much a new genre in of itself but rather the general direction rock is taking (a pretty bold and risky claim to make at the time and one which undermines his main argument that it is a new genre). if that's the case what exactly differentiates "post-rock" bands from say, pink floyd, public image ltd, my bloody valentine, can or big black? what about suicide? its for these reasons why i think the term "post-rock" and the article which tried to define it are flawed because they ultimately raise more questions than they answer. and what's more, as the propositions outlined above show, like most questions on music and genres, answering those questions is a purely subjective matter. so yeah, that's my "beef" with "post rock". its a lazy term from a pretentious magazine ( the wire - anyone who's read their article which discussed bjork's use of microbeats in relation to her spiritual beliefs on vespertine will know what i mean). to my mind at least, both laziness and pretension are the two defining characteristics of both bad music and bad writing. anyway, as for "post rock bands" i love godspeed! rachel's, the dirty three, and labradford with every fibre in my body and feel just the same about stars of the lid and low and even that feels like an understatment. can't really think of any otheres that havn't been mentioned though. as for 65daysofstatic, i've seen them live a couple of times and while they're jolly enough and generally alright i wouldn't say they're particularly special musically. however, judging from the audiences at their shows, the youngsters seem to love them though so i suppose that could be a good thing.
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Post by gus on Aug 13, 2008 8:09:12 GMT 1
ahh godspeed, lift yr skinny fists is still in my humble opinion one of the best albums of the decade. Without any doubt in my top 5 of all time.
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Post by MrVladX on Aug 18, 2008 2:26:59 GMT 1
I don't get why everyone hates the term "post-rock", why would anyone ever get worked up about a genre name, i don't think i've ever had to even use the term "post-rock" before in normal every day situations. Most genres names are "lazy", thats the point; just because you can't understand the difference between Kanye West and Saul Williams calling them both hiphop is as "infuriating" to people who know both artists as people who assume Tortoise and 65daysofstatic are the same genre
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Post by thom on Aug 18, 2008 2:57:54 GMT 1
ahh godspeed, lift yr skinny fists is still in my humble opinion one of the best albums of the decade. I agree.
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Post by vodkavolauvent on Nov 7, 2008 17:41:18 GMT 1
I really like Glissando, actually I really like quite a lot of bands from Gizeh records, who are mostly post-rock. You might also like a little band called The Monroe Transfer - kinda like Godspeed but with more strings. www.myspace.com/electricoldwirenoise
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Post by vodkavolauvent on Nov 7, 2008 17:42:40 GMT 1
Sod post rock.... get on the trail with Moondog! Westward Hooooo! Moondog is ace!
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Post by vodkavolauvent on Dec 10, 2008 14:24:47 GMT 1
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Post by gus on Dec 15, 2008 22:19:03 GMT 1
Sod post rock.... get on the trail with Moondog! Westward Hooooo! Moondog is ace! Yes he is, only took a year to find someone with some sense!
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