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Post by rob strong on Jan 18, 2014 0:41:10 GMT 1
They're included in the mp3 download package for the box set.
I don't know whether the download for the LP+7" package includes Tell Everybody That I Love Them.
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Post by markus on Jan 18, 2014 6:07:14 GMT 1
They're included in the mp3 download package for the box set. I don't know whether the download for the LP+7" package includes Tell Everybody That I Love Them. It does: rockactiondownloads.co.uk/ravetapesindiesYou need to specify your individual download code, your name, email address and country code.
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Post by rob strong on Jan 18, 2014 10:12:55 GMT 1
I reckon I'm around my 20th play of the album and the individual tracks are really starting to cut through now. Upgrading from 320 mp3s to the CD, the difference is striking - brighter/clearer, individual instruments stand out more.
I'm really enjoying this record.
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Post by noise is a friend on Jan 18, 2014 12:12:21 GMT 1
STILL NO DELIVERY Sent from my GT-I9195 using proboards
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Post by benrowe on Jan 18, 2014 15:58:17 GMT 1
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Post by rockactionrecords on Jan 18, 2014 17:47:56 GMT 1
Actually that's the url for the mp3s from the box in general, regardless of whether you bought it from the band website or are buying it from a shop As your man's pointed out there's one for the indies version as well, we needed different url's as obviously each version has different digital content. But yes pedantry aside. As you were.
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Post by benrowe on Jan 18, 2014 17:58:58 GMT 1
Actually that's the url for the mp3s from the box in general, regardless of whether you bought it from the band website or are buying it from a shop As your man's pointed out there's one for the indies version as well, we needed different url's as obviously each version has different digital content. But yes pedantry aside. As you were. Ah - no worries! That would explain things. I couldn't get my code to work via the indies link. It only worked with the 'ravetapes' link.
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jan 18, 2014 19:55:36 GMT 1
i tried downloading the album since my box didn't arrive, and every time sent me to a broken link. now it says that i don't have any remaining downloads... craig, your help please?
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Post by rob strong on Jan 18, 2014 20:18:57 GMT 1
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Post by rockactionrecords on Jan 19, 2014 0:04:21 GMT 1
i tried downloading the album since my box didn't arrive, and every time sent me to a broken link. now it says that i don't have any remaining downloads... craig, your help please? short answer is you're using the wrong codes. the code that applies to the links above is printed on the card in the box, which if you haven't got your box yet you won't have.
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jan 19, 2014 1:39:48 GMT 1
i tried downloading the album since my box didn't arrive, and every time sent me to a broken link. now it says that i don't have any remaining downloads... craig, your help please? short answer is you're using the wrong codes. the code that applies to the links above is printed on the card in the box, which if you haven't got your box yet you won't have. Oh, I thought the downloads would be available regardless you have received the box. In any case, it didn't ask for any codes, I just clicked the link and got in a page with an error code. Remurdered can be downloaded without a problem though.
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Post by rockactionrecords on Jan 19, 2014 2:06:36 GMT 1
short answer is you're using the wrong codes. the code that applies to the links above is printed on the card in the box, which if you haven't got your box yet you won't have. Oh, I thought the downloads would be available regardless you have received the box. In any case, it didn't ask for any codes, I just clicked the link and got in a page with an error code. Remurdered can be downloaded without a problem though. OK. I'll attempt to explain. there are 2 different completely independent links involved here. 1st: the urls that have been posted in this thread apply to the cards that come with the box. so in that respect if you don't have the box and don't have that specific card with the unique code then the above urls won't work. the box is available from many retailers other than the Mogwai store so it would make no sense to include a download card specific to the Mogwai online shop purchases. 2nd: the Sandbag download, is designed to give you access to the album on day of release. the official day of release is Monday 20th, which will be why the link won't work just now. that's the reason Remurdered works, it's an instant grat track.
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Post by markus on Jan 19, 2014 8:01:46 GMT 1
So, has anybody played "Repelish" backwards yet?
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Post by Mr. Beast on Jan 19, 2014 9:29:29 GMT 1
Oh, I thought the downloads would be available regardless you have received the box. In any case, it didn't ask for any codes, I just clicked the link and got in a page with an error code. Remurdered can be downloaded without a problem though. OK. I'll attempt to explain. there are 2 different completely independent links involved here. 1st: the urls that have been posted in this thread apply to the cards that come with the box. so in that respect if you don't have the box and don't have that specific card with the unique code then the above urls won't work. the box is available from many retailers other than the Mogwai store so it would make no sense to include a download card specific to the Mogwai online shop purchases. 2nd: the Sandbag download, is designed to give you access to the album on day of release. the official day of release is Monday 20th, which will be why the link won't work just now. that's the reason Remurdered works, it's an instant grat track. Ok, thanx, the fact that some people talked about working links caused the confusion. Thanks again.
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Post by benrowe on Jan 19, 2014 14:23:51 GMT 1
Posted on the Mogwai Facebook page, a video review by Alexis Petridis on the Guardian website: www.theguardian.com/music/video/2014/jan/17/mogwai-rave-tapes-video-reviewAlexis Petridis recommends Mogwai's eighth album Rave Tapes, an intricate and immersive collection of largely instrumental tracks. While continuing to hone the musical themes they have explored over the last 17 years, the album also manages to be funkier and more conceptually interesting than previous releases. Rave Tapes is out 20 January on Rock Action Records.
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Post by rob strong on Jan 19, 2014 23:50:26 GMT 1
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Post by jontosh on Jan 20, 2014 11:43:30 GMT 1
pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18896-mogwai-rave-tapes/6.0 Personally I can't disagree with any of that review really. While the album is nice enough, I can't help but have an overwhelming sense of conservatism and safety with this album. It doesn't feel like a bold step forward and I worry about how Mogwai will proceed in the future. Safe albums and sit-down concerts don't feel like the actions of a band who are wishing to bring in new fans and continue to be highly "relevant" (whatever the fuck that means!).
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Post by noise is a friend on Jan 20, 2014 13:03:45 GMT 1
my package still hasn't arrived......
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Post by metatron on Jan 20, 2014 14:42:57 GMT 1
pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18896-mogwai-rave-tapes/6.0 Personally I can't disagree with any of that review really. While the album is nice enough, I can't help but have an overwhelming sense of conservatism and safety with this album. It doesn't feel like a bold step forward and I worry about how Mogwai will proceed in the future. Safe albums and sit-down concerts don't feel like the actions of a band who are wishing to bring in new fans and continue to be highly "relevant" (whatever the fuck that means!). Predictable score, Pitchfork haven't given a 7+ to a Mogwai album since Happy Songs if I remember correctly. And even a classic like CODY got a middling score back in the day. Bit of an easy critique as well. I mean, like they point out themselves Mogwai has been active for over 17 years now making 8 albums + EP+6/10Rapid and a couple of soundtracks and EPs. I don't think you can realistically expect a band to completely reinvent the wheel at this point in their carreer. Still, Rave Tapes has its own sound and synthy theme going and they're exploring new things within the confines of the "Mogwai sound" and that is okay for me. Hardcore was a lot more predictable and rehashing old hits but because it was "fun" it got a slightly better review. Ironically they probably would've received a higher score if Rave Tapes had a predictable post-rock climax at the end every song. And honestly, if the only thing you can say about Blues Hours/The Lord is Out of Control "omg they start singing/using vocoders again SO UNORIGINAL" it's hard to take this review serious. That's not very insightful. But this is what the kids want to hear of course, old band being old news. Ironically Mogwai is the victim of their own prolificness throughout the years, at this point they've basically explored everything there is to explore in instrumental rock at least once and they're more or less taken for granted by hipster-websites. They should've just gone on a 10 year hiatus, return with a comeback-album and watch the raving reviews roll in like another famous post-rock band did. Nevermind that said album was probably the most conservative and predictable post-rock to have been released in the last 5 years and might as well been put on the market in 1998.
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Post by captoats on Jan 20, 2014 15:26:36 GMT 1
Predictable score, Pitchfork haven't given a 7+ to a Mogwai album since Happy Songs if I remember correctly. And even a classic like CODY got a middling score back in the day. Bit of an easy critique as well. I mean, like they point out themselves Mogwai has been active for over 17 years now making 8 albums + EP+6/10Rapid and a couple of soundtracks and EPs. I don't think you can realistically expect a band to completely reinvent the wheel at this point in their carreer. Still, Rave Tapes has its own sound and synthy theme going and they're exploring new things within the confines of the "Mogwai sound" and that is okay for me. Hardcore was a lot more predictable and rehashing old hits but because it was "fun" it got a slightly better review. Ironically they probably would've received a higher score if Rave Tapes had a predictable post-rock climax at the end every song. And honestly, if the only thing you can say about Blues Hours/The Lord is Out of Control "omg they start singing/using vocoders again SO UNORIGINAL" it's hard to take this review serious. That's not very insightful. But this is what the kids want to hear of course, old band being old news. Ironically Mogwai is the victim of their own prolificness throughout the years, at this point they've basically explored everything there is to explore in instrumental rock at least once and they're more or less taken for granted by hipster-websites. They should've just gone on a 10 year hiatus, return with a comeback-album and watch the raving reviews roll in like another famous post-rock band did. Nevermind that said album was probably the most conservative and predictable post-rock to have been released in the last 5 years and might as well been put on the market in 1998. Fair point, it's somewhat ironic that it's a completely predictable Pitchfork review. They seem to have a very narrow idea of what they expect "A Mogwai Album" to be. However just for balance they've given 7+ scores fairly recently. Special Moves - 8.2 pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14573-special-moves/Les Revenants - 7.6 pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17764-mogwai-les-revenants/
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Post by metatron on Jan 20, 2014 15:40:58 GMT 1
Neither is a classic studio album though. I remembered that positive Special Moves review but that's a live album and I guess P4K wanted to define Mogwai as a "live act" at that point. Not the first time they did that for a band that is perceived as being past their prime... I missed the Revenants one. I guess they want Mogwai to do more soundtracking as well? Maybe they should put Rave Tapes to film.
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Post by jontosh on Jan 20, 2014 15:59:44 GMT 1
Maybe it's just me that finds it hard to disagree with P4K's scores for the recent Mogwai albums? IMO they've all been a bit average and middling, and Happy Songs was the last studio album I really loved by them. I agree with P4K that Special Moves and Les Revenants are the two standouts from the last 10 years.
"And honestly, if the only thing you can say about Blues Hours/The Lord is Out of Control "omg they start singing/using vocoders again SO UNORIGINAL" it's hard to take this review serious. That's not very insightful."
That isn't quite how I got that point. I agree with the review - it just shows that they've harked back to previous tricks of making their instrumental rock 'their own' - with soft singing on the odd track, and vocoders to spice things up. They've not bettered Dial:Revenge and Take Me Somewhere Nice for 'songs', and Hunted for a vocoder track.
Anyway, I might leave this thread alone for a bit because I am coming across a bit negative and I'm hoping over time this album will open up to me.
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Post by metatron on Jan 20, 2014 17:37:58 GMT 1
I think they criminally underrated Hawk and now to a lesser extend Rave Tapes. I more or less agree with Mr Beast (too inconsistent) and Hardcore (too predictable).
I think it's funny you mention Take me Somewhere Nice because to my ears that always sounded as an attempt to capitalize on the success of Cody (the song) by making another one that does basically exactly the same thing but unfortunatly not nearly as good. At least Blues Hour has the guitar climax in the middle which sets it apart somewhat while Take Me Somewhere Nice is basically Cody the sequel. For many reasons that have in my opinion more to do with nostalgia and the fact that Mogwai was a lot hipper when Rock Action hit the market Take me Somewhere Nice gets a free pass for copying another song while Blues Hour that is actually less similar doesn't. (In fact: imo Rock Action as a whole is easily one of their weaker efforts, lots of unfinished songs and the 2 best ones are the songs that changed/improved the most on Burning Moves. There's one record that actually deserved a 6/10. People always get a severe case of "all things used to be better-itis" when talking veteran bands).
And no, The Lord is Out of Control is not as good as Hunted by a Freak. But does it have to be? First of all, Hunted by a Freak is one of their best songs, they have plenty of material that is not as good as Hunted. Secondly, apart from the vocoder part both songs are really not that similar. That's what I mean by "not very insightful" comments, they just take one aspect of a certain song and go all "I've heard this before!" while ignoring the fact that apart from that one aspect it's really not something they've ever made before. They could've eh... not used vocoders I guess and kept it purely instrumental but I fail to see how that would've made it less in their comfort zone. Of course there are always things that'll come back when you're in the business for 17 years and plenty of albums but within the "post-rock" genre Rave Tapes is pretty fresh. In fact, I've heard people complain about the use of synths on this album.
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Post by bobbob on Jan 20, 2014 19:57:18 GMT 1
pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18896-mogwai-rave-tapes/6.0 Personally I can't disagree with any of that review really. While the album is nice enough, I can't help but have an overwhelming sense of conservatism and safety with this album. It doesn't feel like a bold step forward and I worry about how Mogwai will proceed in the future. Safe albums and sit-down concerts don't feel like the actions of a band who are wishing to bring in new fans and continue to be highly "relevant" (whatever the fuck that means!). What would constitute a "Bold Step Forward" for a band making music continuously for almost 20 years? Can you give me some examples of other bands that have achieved something similar?
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Post by noise is a friend on Jan 20, 2014 20:26:26 GMT 1
box was at home waiting for me looks wonderful, but there's a scratch on the LP
also, on the back of the sleeve of the 7", the track is listed as both "Tell Everybody That I Love Them" and "Tell Everybody I Love Them"!!
haven't had chance to listen to the music yet
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Post by jontosh on Jan 20, 2014 20:34:33 GMT 1
pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18896-mogwai-rave-tapes/6.0 Personally I can't disagree with any of that review really. While the album is nice enough, I can't help but have an overwhelming sense of conservatism and safety with this album. It doesn't feel like a bold step forward and I worry about how Mogwai will proceed in the future. Safe albums and sit-down concerts don't feel like the actions of a band who are wishing to bring in new fans and continue to be highly "relevant" (whatever the fuck that means!). What would constitute a "Bold Step Forward" for a band making music continuously for almost 20 years? Can you give me some examples of other bands that have achieved something similar? Swans, Radiohead, Autechre, The Flaming Lips, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, MBV (Not continuous I appreciate!), Coil...
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Post by sim72 on Jan 20, 2014 20:46:24 GMT 1
My box set was waiting for me when I got home, all very nice. I don't usually expect much from the bonus tracks but these are pretty good at first listen, especially liking "Bad Magician 3". Going to take my old Golf Mk3 which I'm currently doing up to work tomorrow instead of my "normal" car so I can listen to the album on tape.
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Post by metatron on Jan 20, 2014 21:09:12 GMT 1
What would constitute a "Bold Step Forward" for a band making music continuously for almost 20 years? Can you give me some examples of other bands that have achieved something similar? Swans, Radiohead, Autechre, The Flaming Lips, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, MBV (Not continuous I appreciate!), Coil... Swans has a pretty long hiatus as well so that's not a very fair example, just like MBV. Radioheads last album was neither very experimental nor actually good. Radiohead also released albums at a much slower rate than Mogwai after 2003. I appreciate what Flaming Lips tried on their last album but it didn't really get them a lot of raving reviews either. Don't think Autechres latest albums are such a big depature either. Nick Cave, sure... but he's an exception. Can't really think of anyone else who is bother as consistently and versatile.
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Post by jontosh on Jan 20, 2014 21:53:23 GMT 1
Swans, Radiohead, Autechre, The Flaming Lips, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, MBV (Not continuous I appreciate!), Coil... Swans has a pretty long hiatus as well so that's not a very fair example, just like MBV. Radioheads last album was neither very experimental nor actually good. Radiohead also released albums at a much slower rate than Mogwai after 2003. I appreciate what Flaming Lips tried on their last album but it didn't really get them a lot of raving reviews either. Don't think Autechres latest albums are such a big depature either. Nick Cave, sure... but he's an exception. Can't really think of anyone else who is bother as consistently and versatile. maybe the solution is to either go on a hiatus or hire Nick Cave! The new Autechre album is well worth checking out, IMO their best. Got my hands on the boxset 5 mins ago, very nice package. Looking forward to giving it all a spin tonight
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Post by Ryan on Jan 21, 2014 6:09:09 GMT 1
I actually agree that the last Autechre album is great. But it's not in any way a departure from their established sound. Nor does it need to be. Not to nitpick, but the vocoder in in 'The Lord Is...' isn't there to 'spice things up', it's carrying the song's main melody. Sure, they could have used, say, a brass section for that part instead, but would it make the song any better? In the end it just comes down to whether you like the new music or not.
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